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We have a piebald on the farm and would love to see my son or fiance bag this buck, GOOD LUCK MANDI AND BLAIN!!! I'm not saying I'm a stone cold killer but I have a few bow kills under my belt and have had really no trouble in the past shooting through a front shoulder at a deer that was quartering to me. Thx Lost a good doe this morning, and it bothers me to no end.

However, I do have some friends that use expandable broadheads and have trouble shooting through a shoulder. After sunset I went back to the place of impact 3hrs. Two days later I took a shot on a 6pt at 42yrds out...sounded like a miss and sounded like I hit a tree... Anyway, the shot was at 10.5 yards, quartering away, went through the rib cage about the ninth and tenth rib and then out the chest.

One of the most difficult aspects of shot placement on a deer is locating the vitals and avoiding the shoulder especially when bowhunting.

Angles from tree stands and even the body position of the deer need to be considered.

That is a fairly steep angle though...arrow could\'ve deflected down after hitting the ribs instead of exiting through the chest and missing the vitals. ARVelocity, it sounds like you hit your deer a little far back and is probably a gut shot. I have since then gone back to hunt and had a chance to study the situation more and think that I got some of that no mans land myself. Found my arrow with out a trace on it, but i have a blood trail. By using this method we have found numerous deer we had lost the trail of but picked it up again after some distance.

When you loose the trail circle ahead in the direction your markers are pointing while checking all the little trails in the area you will eventually find it again but it may be 20-40 yards or more between blood spots.Waiting a couple hours only gets you more excited, but rarely hinders your recovery. If he was being pushed, and the hole was stopping up, you may drive him a mile or more. In fact quartering away shots give you the most margin for error.I think the only time you push a deer is with a pure muscle hit because you want him to keep pumping blood, and keeping him on the move does that. I'd go to the nearest water hole (pond creek, etc.) and begin to scout around the edges. My 13 year old daughter is going hunting for the first time this year. I did tell her to be patient and wait for it to turn broad side, but she understood what was going on with the different shots! justin ive been reading and have added to your site for over a year and i enjoy the stories which have been posted i think you have a great site keep up the good work may your blood trails be short and your venison be never over cooked bill These pic's are a excellecnt teaching practices for shot placement for youngster's and older beginers, it was a great tool to have my son and my fiance. Never turn advice down always listen, I talked to a guy at TSC for 30 minutes and learned alot of good tips! it wasn't easy, but I learned that you have to stick it out. Do you think my broadhead could penetrate the front shoulder and hit the vitals on a 20-yard shot?Shot placement is essential, shooting a deer in the shoulder no matter what broadhead or what poundage your shooting is a bad idea. It was shagging a doe, didnt have a lot of time and only had small window. She did a couple first bounds then I heard almost coughing or wheezing choking as she was trying to breathe. In heavy wet cover watch for fresh prints in open areas look for kicked up leaves or grass.Russell, that\'s tough luck, sounds like you made a good shot! I am positive that my arrow followed a straight path, considering it exited the direction it went in. Decided to let it sit and am going back in the morning to look more. It may take some off or little used trails but will come back the same general direction with in 10-20 degrees unless something forces it to change course (people, buildings or preditors).

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